CNG Education Working Group meeting 2025-06-11
A bi-weekly meeting of the CNG Education Working Group
Attendees
- Andrew Smith
- Youssef Harby
- Michelle Roby
- Matt Fisher (@mfisher87)
- Jarrett Keifer
- Tyler Erickson
Action items
Notes
- See GitHub: https://github.com/cng-education
- Issues: https://github.com/cng-education/curriculum/issues
- User types (https://github.com/cng-education/curriculum/issues/11):
- Create a “why” so they want to go down the different paths
- Software background, no GIS experience
- Geography backgrounds, no programming experience – ArcGIS user
- People who use ArcGIS but hate it? 😆
- Mad about “Error 9999” AGAIN?
- Bugs that haven’t been fixed for half a decade or more?
- Want more automation?
- Youssef: Engage ArcGIS users where there are, e.g. design notebooks for running in ArcPro.
- People who use ArcGIS but hate it? 😆
- Project manager: Needs to engage in strategy discussions with developers and possibly geographers, researchers. Need conceptual understanding. Why is cloud native important strategically? Why should they say “yes” to their team?
- Want to understand at the conceptual level
- Farmer who wants to do some analysis on their field: where are the boulders? Where are my irrigation lines? Where are the floodgates? Not a programmer.
- Map of the landscape as the entrypoint to all of this
- Think “ThoughtWorks tech radar”-ish?
- https://www.earthdatascience.org/courses/ (example)
- Existing resources (https://github.com/cng-education/curriculum/issues/2)
- On targeting ESRI / ArcGIS users?
- Need a license to build and test any tutorials we make
- ESRI is a huge company, they should assign their employees to work on that type of material
- Other ethical concerns with advancing the ESRI machine over open source alternatives
- ArcGIS Notebooks are just Jupyter Notebooks, rebranded; some ESRI users don’t know what Jupyter is!
- Mapping CNG tools
- https://cloudnativegeo.slack.com/files/U07AM35HJKS/F0913R58J6N/cng-infrastructure-concept.pdf